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Post #38 161
For the avoidance of doubt: any posts here are for informational and educational purposes only and does not constitute financial or investment advices.

In Valueverse, we analyse data, token design, and revenue tendencies in onchain world.

Any token may rise or fall in value, and all decisions, profits, and losses remain solely the responsibility of each participant.
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Post #37 177
This weekend one Base token is going UP parabolic📈

Why we write about it here? -> It's not a meme, but an asset with a cashflow.

When this cashflow went parabolic, token price followed. Not vice versa.

Token is $BEAN (https://x.com/minebean_)

It's a lottery-style game:
• You need to select one square from 5x5 field (25 squares in total)
• Every minute, there is a round with placing stakes ($ETH)
• When round ends, the winning square is randomly selected

Mechanics (Win vs. Lose vs Fees)
• Winner(s) receive all $ETH deployed minus fees + 1.3 $BEAN emission on each round (1 Bean could be won by 1 player or split between all winners). Also, there is a BeanPot, that accumulates the remaining 0.3 Bean as a jackpot thing.
• Fees: 1% from all stakes, and 10% from $ETH that lost (remaining 24 squares)
• Protocol revenue is this 10% of $ETH that lost

Token value capture: what happens with protocol revenue?
• $ETH is used to buyback $BEAN
• 90% of purchased $BEAN is burnt
• 10% of purchased $BEAN goes to $BEAN stakers as a staking reward

Stats:
• $263k of fees only today, growing from $32k 3 days ago (token FDV now $16.6M, $6.9 liquid mcap at $293 price)
• 7,626 $BEAN is staked earning 463% APY in $BEAN (not emission, purchased using 10% of fees)
• 1.3 $BEAN issued every round (1 minute) and 1.7-2.5 is burnt, meaning net deflation -0.4-1.2 $BEAN per round with average

Valueverse's favorite part:
• Direct cashflow multiplier is complicated to calculate due to very early situation (revenue & eligible supply too volatile), with 463% APY it is simeting like ~0.22x (super low)
• Taking -0.5 BEAN per minute deflation as a benchmark and 57,046 $BEAN current circulation it means -262,800 $BEAN deflation per year. I don't know yet how to calculate multiplier correctly.
• It evolves so fast that it is complicated to assess these metrics in traditional ERM multipliers style

Disclaimer: we are not affilated with this project, just sharing what we found in X and checked out since it looks really interesting -> adding revenue-focused token design to lottery apps, instead of doing useless memecoins. This post is for education purposes only.

NFA, DYOR, as usual.
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Post #36 189
One of examples why revenue dashboards “powered by Defillama” under the hood make no sense

https://x.com/vasily_sumanov/status/2028914404084043865?s=46

Elite level of data analytics is when you feed AI with correct & deep context data

Otherwise it is not reliable and not worth putting any real money in it.
X (formerly Twitter) Vasily Sumanov (@vasily_sumanov) on X @DefiIgnas @DefiIgnas, your table: - doesn't contain bribe income for $CRV which accounts for ~75% of holders' revenue (Defillama doesn't track bribes for @CurveFinance). Multiplier is much lower in reality - $AERO revenue is incorrect, it is ~$170m Year…
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Post #35 193
$AERO is not only core cashflow asset on Base, but also the most evident recipient of Base native token drop.

There are last two epochs of Flight School that rewards newly-locked veAERO with new AERO (coming from real buybacks not emission)

Current one will end at 11th March and approximately provide +23% to your stake (not “APY”. Instantly)

If you will buy veNFT on Vexy, you will spend 250 days to get a cashflow necessary to buy and lock +23% veAERO to your position

Think about that. If you for some reason are bullish on veAERO future, the best option is to act and get Flight School’s +23% for free.

Instruction:
1. Lock AERO -> veAERO
2. Delegate it to Relay or vote yourself.

DO-NOT USE Autopilot(!!) You wouldn’t be eligible for the Flight School after that!!

3. Wait & check your status at official dashboard

https://dune.com/x_drome_analytics/veaero-rewards-program

4. In the meanwhile check stats on our data hub

https://app.valueverse.ai/tokens/aerodrome-finance
Dune veAERO Rewards Program | Dune The industry standard for onchain data. Structured, institutional-grade blockchain datasets across RWAs, stablecoins, tokens, lending, and more. 130+ chains.
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Post #34 237
What will be there
-> Core Assets ($YB $CRV $AERO $HYPE $PUMP etc) for tracking your portfolio.
-> Alpha Assets ($HYDX $BNKR $CLANKER + some other small caps with revenue from Base), the Alpha section will be constantly updated with new tokens to have a first-hand info on emerging stuff.
-> All data is manually created and verified(!), without that it makes no sense. But what makes even more sense is AI tool on top that uses revenue data set that is verified and correct (if you will plug in free data from popular platforms, a lot of it is not correct if we talk about revenue, see our recent public discussion with $AERO founder: https://x.com/vasily_sumanov/status/2028225347037040997). More info on this point soon.

All of this will be available via API and MCP for Agents. We focus on UI distribution (Wallets, CEXes, Trading apps) + Agents.
We will also make some visual version for humans and there will be a whitelist application for getting in. Everybody in this group gets priority.
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Post #33 215
We are increasingly interested in Base tokens, and preparing some stats for that.

Base will be big, and some tokens will be big as well. In Vv we chase Revenue Upside opportunities & legit stuff that makes money for holders.

So, what we have on Base besides $AERO which is an obvious play?
Reminder: $0.35 price per 1 $AERO -> it makes $0.09-$0.11 fees/year counting recent periods, and made ~$0.25 fees per 1veAERO in 2025). With upcoming rollout to ETH mainnet and capturing a share of Uniswap market these numbers can grow up event to $0.30-$0.40 per 1veAERO/year.

First of all: these tokens were mentioned in our recent report: https://x.com/twitter/status/2027521090973843717

Below we present some revenue stats and what we think about it.

An announcement on why we will have more detailed stats & ideas here in TG:
• Due to X new policies that are targeting paid shilling KOLs we have much less options to make any straight conclusions regarding assets and their quality for possible investments.
• Valueverse doesn’t promote tokens. We build tools to understand them and sharing findings.
• However, even being an analytical project that plays on investors side unlike some others in this space (probably you know that majority of X crypto research is done to promote tokens and sell them to you), we need to be really careful on what we write there.

1. $HYDX (hydrex.fi) - a new type of MetaDEX, with a token that can be considered as a "diffrent version" of $AERO tokenomics. The project is small but already makes money for holders. The core idea of the token is the same - all swap fees & bribes are going to $HYDX lockers.

The project makes $99.4k per week (fees & bribes, average for past 25 weeks). It means that it is almost $5.2m per year. However, not all tokens have equal weight in fees distributions(there is a earning power metric that makes weighting for that and it is the core thing to investigate further). All of this requires much deeper analysis, but first numbers show that this is (1) a revenue token (2) fees that it generates per year are bigger than its price .

Tokenomic is complex, and it requires a special guide to be used efficiently (optimial locks, optimal voting & compounding, etc). We tested everything with our own hands to understand how this thing ever works.

Keep an eye on it, we investigate it further.

2. BankerBot ($BNKR). The new social trading AI Agent that allows you to buy/sell assets with a text commands. Talking about the token, it has staking option with 8.82% current APR & 11.9% of tokens staked. It makes fees and partly transfers then to token holders with staking rewards (that were bought back from the market, as we found analysing onchain operations). Looks interesting but it didn't convince me to buy it.

3. $CLANKER. The launchpad for agents. It makes money and transfers it to token holders via buybacks. Today, 13.57% of $CLANKER is bought back and the majority of these buybacks were happening during the recent month. Extrapolated yearly buyback from current prices is 39% what means ERM (Effective Revenue Multiplier) is ~2.5x what is quite moderate. During recent pump to $125 it was overheated based on our model but now with $28 and ERM = 2.5x it looks much more interesting. (and here you see that token price means nothing until you know its revenue vs. price?)

What next?

We are finalizing our Effective Multipliers product that will have all the data regarding revenues, revenue-eligible supply, historical multipliers, related charts etc. It is built without any Dune -> now we use our own indexer and get real-time data directly from dRPC nodes. Note that Dune data can be delayed and dashboards there are not so reliable vs. aquiring/processing data directly from blockchain nodes.
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Post #32 177
$YB makes money today.

Volatility pays off
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Post #30 147

Forwarded from cryptocholy

cholycast - завтра

25.02, 6PM UTC +3

Roundtable: будущее капитала: большие тренды, токены и новая финансовая архитектура

feat. Ivan, co-founder Resolv; Vasily, co-founder Valueverse

Хороший экспертный состав, решили обсудить насущное положение рынка и посмотреть в будущее

memo:

Финансовая система не рушится.
Она перепрошивается.

Капитал становится программируемым.
Риски ~ алгоритмизируемыми.
Токены ~ попыткой переопределить структуру собственности.

Но главный вопрос не в DeFi.
Главный вопрос ~ где возникает ценность и кто её удерживает.

Обсудим:

— создаёт ли крипта новую финансовую систему или лишь ускоряет спекуляцию
— почему TVL часто ничего не говорит о реальной силе
— какие токен-модели действительно собирают value
— кейс Hyperliquid и новые принципы оценки
— возможен ли устойчивый доход в ончейне
— институциональный капитал: структурный сдвиг или временный поток
— что будет с рынком, если решения начнут принимать AI-агенты

Это разговор не про DeFi.
Это разговор про архитектуру капитала.

Если убрать спекуляцию ~
что останется от рынка?

25.02, 6PM UTC +3
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Post #29 145
If you occasionally speak Russian, I will be on a podcast today together with Choly & Resolv founder

English-speaking podcasts also coming
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Post #28 200
Yield Basis Performance Report is live:
https://x.com/valueverse_ai/status/2023870231928803758?s=20

We used indexed data + AI to backtest future governance proposals and validate outcomes in days, not weeks.

Moving toward: continuous audit of on-chain businesses and automated hypothesis testing (gov proposals, new products, growth scenarios).

Base low-cap revenue tokens report is cooking.
X (formerly Twitter) Valueverse (@valueverse_ai) on X A State of Yield Basis [REPORT] Access the full report: https://t.co/kGOZQ5hflM @yieldbasis performance review: fees, emissions, and safe scaling framework
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Post #27 243
Cashflow Upside -> investing in something that could make several “X” more money per month.

A great case study here for vlCVX

https://x.com/valueverse_ai/status/2023513783721930822?s=46

Our main focus is to collect all hidden gems in this space. #Ethereum, #Base
X (formerly Twitter) Valueverse (@valueverse_ai) on X A great guide on investing in Cashflow Upside, not just chasing price growth. Today proven cashflow machines are priced below assets without any real value. If we will go to positive times in c…
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Post #26 328
Highlighting a classic misunderstanding: Protocol Revenue ≠ Token Revenue:

https://x.com/vasily_sumanov/status/2022200019374223632

Posts like quoted one create the illusion that buying a token (e.g. $LDO) gives direct exposure to protocol yield, which is simply not the case (at least in its current design).

This is exactly why we focus on Effective Revenue Multipliers to demonstrate pricing of value actually captured by the token.

The next step is even more important:
→ Revenue scoring
→ Accounting consistency
→ Future dilution
→ % of revenue captured by token holders

Not all revenue is created equal. Not all of it accrues to you.
X (formerly Twitter) Vasily Sumanov (@vasily_sumanov) on X An example how people totally misunderstood protocol revenue is NOT token holders revenue $LDO doesn’t capture these cashflows $UNI buybacks are tiny vs huge mcap, revenue multiplier x100+ $ENA doesn’t have any cashflows Only $PENDLE from this list…
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Post #25 186
Post #24 217
BASE eco is fueled up with the new batch of emerging revenue-generating assets with AI and novel Defi solutions

All of them are super early

Thinking to do a dedicated report for that
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Post #21 254
Post #20 263
It’s it time to dig into Molt ecosystem AI tokens?

Curious if they have cashflow or at least some utility
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Post #19 264
Cashflow Machines

Market down -> they print even more fees

The price could decline, but, unlike with other assets, holders receive fees for owning them.

The key to building wealth in a more fundamental paradigm is to buy future revenue while it’s cheap and receive it all the way through, while the market will reprice assets back.

https://x.com/valueverse_ai/status/2017690176630501474?s=46
X (formerly Twitter) Valueverse (@valueverse_ai) on X Some assets made huge revenue from volatility today Revenue vs. price -> it's what matters rn. Time to explore cashflow machines.
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