TODD: Caroline, can I call a time out here? Why are you arguing against promoting work requirements for welfare? Why are you causing a Civil War backlash to go against someone who is pushing a core part of the conservative philosophy? Why are you undermining that effort?

SUNSHINE: Here's what I'm arguing. In 2024, maybe Governor Sanders forgot this, Republicans won young men and young women, more young men, under the age of 30 for the first time ever. We had a generational opportunity.

TODD: Are you trying to stroke grievance based on age and race (inaudible)?

SUNSHINE: I'm pointing out the facts.

The facts are that more welfare is handed out to Somali immigrants in Minnesota.

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We have it on the record. If you want to know more about it, you can go ask Tim Walz.

TODD: Shoot outside the tent. Don't shoot inside the tent.