To add to the previous post: https://x.com/ValerioCapraro/status/2097791836269977996

We were supposed to act surprised when Google settled a class action lawsuit related to deleting ("not retaining"?) Incognito window logs it kept for a long time. So much for Don't be Evil.

And now we are supposed to believe OpenAI et. al. would not use whatever data they can get a hold of during training and/or reasoning.

Seriously, this may well be a fluke originally. Something like nginx logs not properly rotated. And maybe a good-faith kind-hearted pro-privacy SRE said "wait, these are good for debugging, but it appears our models are using this, so let's perhaps restrict access, or out right delete these logs?"

And then someone From The Business stepped in and said, or rather, quietly without-saying-anything, made sure those logs do stay and do remain available for the model.

And this other someone From The Business probably got paid ~1000x more than the diligent SRE who sincerely wanted to set the record straight.

I am not saying this is what happened. It's totally made up by yours truly. Any and every relation to reality is pure coincidence.

But show me the incentives and I'll show you the outcome. That's how the world works. And if you think otherwise, it's probably about time to grow up.