LLM packages in ELPA and SaaSS or: How to divide RMS from emacs maintainers (again)

I think it's worth making this known.

Lately I've noticed a thread on emacs-devel that's both long and exhausting to read.

Originally, it began as a request to include hermes.el (a client to hermes-agent) to NonGNU ELPA, but the thread seems to have gotten a little out of control: https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2026-09/msg00208.html

And it generated more threads:
https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2026-09/msg00235.html
https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2026-09/msg00400.html

The threads seem to be going nowhere, but from what I could read, it seems this is dividing RMS from the maintainers (again).

Both threads are very long, and I wouldn't recommend reading them unless you have a lot of free time or you are bored.

https://redd.it/1wv407e
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