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ā€‹ā€‹šŸ§  [Long Research] Topic: Ledger, HW and Security

Ohayo, have you heard of the Ledge… - OMG STFU 🤬

Hold on; we won’t bore you with just an annoying recap. This post is more of a quick thought-piece for you to consider and maybe calm your nerves. Scroll to ā€œWhat now?ā€ if you are up-to-date.

Ledger fiasco 1-2-3 šŸ¤¦ā€ā™€ļø

A few days ago, Ledger announced the launch of Recover. It allows users who opt-in and subscribe to use it as a backup for their private keys. The service splits the user’s seed phrase into three encrypted shards and sends them to third-party companies… smth like that. Ledger, especially, made statements about their use of the secure element, and 6 months ago they published a post where they said: "A firmware update cannot extract the private keys from the Secure Element".

They pretty much lied to our face again. Morons, truly.

The trouble lies somewhere else - any HWW can have firmware written to extract the seed, as it seems after this charade. The problem is that Ledger is a closed source, so no one can verify that it isn't happening, no matter how much they promise there is no backdoor.

- Trezor is able to do the same thing, but it’s open-source, so you can kinda check it;
- GridPlus is the same as Ledger in this case, but they promised to open-source soon.

It all depends on your threat model. But if we decide to trust our information to Ledger, then it's worth remembering a story about the Ledger data leak that exposed users’ information in 2020 & more…

You already knew they could do it; you just didn’t THINK!

Remember when you were happily downloading new chains’ integrations on Ledger? But some of those previously have not been a part of the old encryption list. So, it was new-new. Well, this wouldn’t have been possible unless this ā€œbackdoorā€ existed. Basically, every developer around the world happily continued installing those updates and didn’t think twice.

What now, any alternatives? šŸ¤”

Don’t update the firmware for as long as you can. When Metamask stops functioning with the older versions… well, seek another extension like Frame and the likes. That’s an option. Here, you kind of have to assume that ledger devs haven’t fucked us yet and didn’t backdoor a firmware before.

Alternatives: Lattice1 and AirGap. Just google them and read more.

TINFOIL ON, THE GOVERNMENT IS WATCHING ME 🪣

Welcome, Gnosis Safe. If you want the ultimate security, go make a safe. Make it 3/5 in case you are afraid to lose the 2/3 keys. You have to believe contracts are safe, but with the amounts they are holding today… we all pray they are. It’s like Saylor, if hacked, it’s all pretty bad from there.

Be careful not fucking yourself, unless you genuinely like DP…

You can go very far with upgrading your security, so my question to you would be - are you sure that you are worth it and that you know what you are doing? If you are not a developer, there is a high chance of you facking yourself over with wrong moves. Are your $$ even large enough?
- If you use a VPN like NordVPN, it’s dumber than no VPN
- If you double-encrypt something, it’s dumb as hell
- If you use your real name in apps, it’s also unsafe

How safe can you go, anon? Well, you aren’t anon after all. Don’t go too tinfoil; it never ends well. But if you must… CIA writes about these things (not the agent, lol) - you can check it out.

More threads šŸ¦ž

- https://twitter.com/Mudit__Gupta/status/1659071865762230274
- https://twitter.com/notsofast/status/1658538053219016707
- https://twitter.com/PixSorcerer/status/1658511668853501952
- https://twitter.com/hosseeb/status/1658740433361702913
- https://twitter.com/web3_Phil/status/1658525128928395269
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