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Post #1646 31
ยณยณ๐“๐ž๐š๐œ๐ก ๐ฆ๐ž, ๐Ž ๐‹๐Ž๐‘๐ƒ, ๐ญ๐ก๐ž ๐ฐ๐š๐ฒ ๐จ๐Ÿ ๐ญ๐ก๐ฒ ๐ฌ๐ญ๐š๐ญ๐ฎ๐ญ๐ž๐ฌ; ๐š๐ง๐ ๐ˆ ๐ฌ๐ก๐š๐ฅ๐ฅ ๐ค๐ž๐ž๐ฉ ๐ข๐ญ [๐ฎ๐ง๐ญ๐จ] ๐ญ๐ก๐ž ๐ž๐ง๐.
ยณโด๐†๐ข๐ฏ๐ž ๐ฆ๐ž ๐ฎ๐ง๐๐ž๐ซ๐ฌ๐ญ๐š๐ง๐๐ข๐ง๐ , ๐š๐ง๐ ๐ˆ ๐ฌ๐ก๐š๐ฅ๐ฅ ๐ค๐ž๐ž๐ฉ ๐ญ๐ก๐ฒ ๐ฅ๐š๐ฐ; ๐ฒ๐ž๐š, ๐ˆ ๐ฌ๐ก๐š๐ฅ๐ฅ ๐จ๐›๐ฌ๐ž๐ซ๐ฏ๐ž ๐ข๐ญ ๐ฐ๐ข๐ญ๐ก [๐ฆ๐ฒ] ๐ฐ๐ก๐จ๐ฅ๐ž ๐ก๐ž๐š๐ซ๐ญ.
ยณโต๐Œ๐š๐ค๐ž ๐ฆ๐ž ๐ญ๐จ ๐ ๐จ ๐ข๐ง ๐ญ๐ก๐ž ๐ฉ๐š๐ญ๐ก ๐จ๐Ÿ ๐ญ๐ก๐ฒ ๐œ๐จ๐ฆ๐ฆ๐š๐ง๐๐ฆ๐ž๐ง๐ญ๐ฌ; ๐Ÿ๐จ๐ซ ๐ญ๐ก๐ž๐ซ๐ž๐ข๐ง ๐๐จ ๐ˆ ๐๐ž๐ฅ๐ข๐ ๐ก๐ญ.
ยณโถ๐ˆ๐ง๐œ๐ฅ๐ข๐ง๐ž ๐ฆ๐ฒ ๐ก๐ž๐š๐ซ๐ญ ๐ฎ๐ง๐ญ๐จ ๐ญ๐ก๐ฒ ๐ญ๐ž๐ฌ๐ญ๐ข๐ฆ๐จ๐ง๐ข๐ž๐ฌ, ๐š๐ง๐ ๐ง๐จ๐ญ ๐ญ๐จ ๐œ๐จ๐ฏ๐ž๐ญ๐จ๐ฎ๐ฌ๐ง๐ž๐ฌ๐ฌ.
ยณโท๐“๐ฎ๐ซ๐ง ๐š๐ฐ๐š๐ฒ ๐ฆ๐ข๐ง๐ž ๐ž๐ฒ๐ž๐ฌ ๐Ÿ๐ซ๐จ๐ฆ ๐›๐ž๐ก๐จ๐ฅ๐๐ข๐ง๐  ๐ฏ๐š๐ง๐ข๐ญ๐ฒ; [๐š๐ง๐] ๐ช๐ฎ๐ข๐œ๐ค๐ž๐ง ๐ญ๐ก๐จ๐ฎ ๐ฆ๐ž ๐ข๐ง ๐ญ๐ก๐ฒ ๐ฐ๐š๐ฒ.
ยณโธ๐’๐ญ๐š๐›๐ฅ๐ข๐ฌ๐ก ๐ญ๐ก๐ฒ ๐ฐ๐จ๐ซ๐ ๐ฎ๐ง๐ญ๐จ ๐ญ๐ก๐ฒ ๐ฌ๐ž๐ซ๐ฏ๐š๐ง๐ญ, ๐ฐ๐ก๐จ [๐ข๐ฌ ๐๐ž๐ฏ๐จ๐ญ๐ž๐] ๐ญ๐จ ๐ญ๐ก๐ฒ ๐Ÿ๐ž๐š๐ซ.
ยณโน๐“๐ฎ๐ซ๐ง ๐š๐ฐ๐š๐ฒ ๐ฆ๐ฒ ๐ซ๐ž๐ฉ๐ซ๐จ๐š๐œ๐ก ๐ฐ๐ก๐ข๐œ๐ก ๐ˆ ๐Ÿ๐ž๐š๐ซ: ๐Ÿ๐จ๐ซ ๐ญ๐ก๐ฒ ๐ฃ๐ฎ๐๐ ๐ฆ๐ž๐ง๐ญ๐ฌ [๐š๐ซ๐ž] ๐ ๐จ๐จ๐.
โดโฐ๐๐ž๐ก๐จ๐ฅ๐, ๐ˆ ๐ก๐š๐ฏ๐ž ๐ฅ๐จ๐ง๐ ๐ž๐ ๐š๐Ÿ๐ญ๐ž๐ซ ๐ญ๐ก๐ฒ ๐ฉ๐ซ๐ž๐œ๐ž๐ฉ๐ญ๐ฌ: ๐ช๐ฎ๐ข๐œ๐ค๐ž๐ง ๐ฆ๐ž ๐ข๐ง ๐ญ๐ก๐ฒ ๐ซ๐ข๐ ๐ก๐ญ๐ž๐จ๐ฎ๐ฌ๐ง๐ž๐ฌ๐ฌ.
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Post #1644 230
ยนโ€นโ€น๐€ ๐๐ฌ๐š๐ฅ๐ฆ ๐จ๐Ÿ ๐ƒ๐š๐ฏ๐ข๐.โ€บโ€บ ๐ˆ ๐ฐ๐ข๐ฅ๐ฅ ๐ฌ๐ข๐ง๐  ๐จ๐Ÿ ๐ฆ๐ž๐ซ๐œ๐ฒ ๐š๐ง๐ ๐ฃ๐ฎ๐๐ ๐ฆ๐ž๐ง๐ญ: ๐ฎ๐ง๐ญ๐จ ๐ญ๐ก๐ž๐ž, ๐Ž ๐‹๐Ž๐‘๐ƒ, ๐ฐ๐ข๐ฅ๐ฅ ๐ˆ ๐ฌ๐ข๐ง๐ .
ยฒ๐ˆ ๐ฐ๐ข๐ฅ๐ฅ ๐›๐ž๐ก๐š๐ฏ๐ž ๐ฆ๐ฒ๐ฌ๐ž๐ฅ๐Ÿ ๐ฐ๐ข๐ฌ๐ž๐ฅ๐ฒ ๐ข๐ง ๐š ๐ฉ๐ž๐ซ๐Ÿ๐ž๐œ๐ญ ๐ฐ๐š๐ฒ. ๐Ž ๐ฐ๐ก๐ž๐ง ๐ฐ๐ข๐ฅ๐ญ ๐ญ๐ก๐จ๐ฎ ๐œ๐จ๐ฆ๐ž ๐ฎ๐ง๐ญ๐จ ๐ฆ๐ž? ๐ˆ ๐ฐ๐ข๐ฅ๐ฅ ๐ฐ๐š๐ฅ๐ค ๐ฐ๐ข๐ญ๐ก๐ข๐ง ๐ฆ๐ฒ ๐ก๐จ๐ฎ๐ฌ๐ž ๐ฐ๐ข๐ญ๐ก ๐š ๐ฉ๐ž๐ซ๐Ÿ๐ž๐œ๐ญ ๐ก๐ž๐š๐ซ๐ญ.
ยณ๐ˆ ๐ฐ๐ข๐ฅ๐ฅ ๐ฌ๐ž๐ญ ๐ง๐จ ๐ฐ๐ข๐œ๐ค๐ž๐ ๐ญ๐ก๐ข๐ง๐  ๐›๐ž๐Ÿ๐จ๐ซ๐ž ๐ฆ๐ข๐ง๐ž ๐ž๐ฒ๐ž๐ฌ: ๐ˆ ๐ก๐š๐ญ๐ž ๐ญ๐ก๐ž ๐ฐ๐จ๐ซ๐ค ๐จ๐Ÿ ๐ญ๐ก๐ž๐ฆ ๐ญ๐ก๐š๐ญ ๐ญ๐ฎ๐ซ๐ง ๐š๐ฌ๐ข๐๐ž; [๐ข๐ญ] ๐ฌ๐ก๐š๐ฅ๐ฅ ๐ง๐จ๐ญ ๐œ๐ฅ๐ž๐š๐ฏ๐ž ๐ญ๐จ ๐ฆ๐ž.
โด๐€ ๐Ÿ๐ซ๐จ๐ฐ๐š๐ซ๐ ๐ก๐ž๐š๐ซ๐ญ ๐ฌ๐ก๐š๐ฅ๐ฅ ๐๐ž๐ฉ๐š๐ซ๐ญ ๐Ÿ๐ซ๐จ๐ฆ ๐ฆ๐ž: ๐ˆ ๐ฐ๐ข๐ฅ๐ฅ ๐ง๐จ๐ญ ๐ค๐ง๐จ๐ฐ ๐š ๐ฐ๐ข๐œ๐ค๐ž๐ [๐ฉ๐ž๐ซ๐ฌ๐จ๐ง].
โต๐–๐ก๐จ๐ฌ๐จ ๐ฉ๐ซ๐ข๐ฏ๐ข๐ฅ๐ฒ ๐ฌ๐ฅ๐š๐ง๐๐ž๐ซ๐ž๐ญ๐ก ๐ก๐ข๐ฌ ๐ง๐ž๐ข๐ ๐ก๐›๐จ๐ฎ๐ซ, ๐ก๐ข๐ฆ ๐ฐ๐ข๐ฅ๐ฅ ๐ˆ ๐œ๐ฎ๐ญ ๐จ๐Ÿ๐Ÿ: ๐ก๐ข๐ฆ ๐ญ๐ก๐š๐ญ ๐ก๐š๐ญ๐ก ๐š๐ง ๐ก๐ข๐ ๐ก ๐ฅ๐จ๐จ๐ค ๐š๐ง๐ ๐š ๐ฉ๐ซ๐จ๐ฎ๐ ๐ก๐ž๐š๐ซ๐ญ ๐ฐ๐ข๐ฅ๐ฅ ๐ง๐จ๐ญ ๐ˆ ๐ฌ๐ฎ๐Ÿ๐Ÿ๐ž๐ซ.
โถ๐Œ๐ข๐ง๐ž ๐ž๐ฒ๐ž๐ฌ [๐ฌ๐ก๐š๐ฅ๐ฅ ๐›๐ž] ๐ฎ๐ฉ๐จ๐ง ๐ญ๐ก๐ž ๐Ÿ๐š๐ข๐ญ๐ก๐Ÿ๐ฎ๐ฅ ๐จ๐Ÿ ๐ญ๐ก๐ž ๐ฅ๐š๐ง๐, ๐ญ๐ก๐š๐ญ ๐ญ๐ก๐ž๐ฒ ๐ฆ๐š๐ฒ ๐๐ฐ๐ž๐ฅ๐ฅ ๐ฐ๐ข๐ญ๐ก ๐ฆ๐ž: ๐ก๐ž ๐ญ๐ก๐š๐ญ ๐ฐ๐š๐ฅ๐ค๐ž๐ญ๐ก ๐ข๐ง ๐š ๐ฉ๐ž๐ซ๐Ÿ๐ž๐œ๐ญ ๐ฐ๐š๐ฒ, ๐ก๐ž ๐ฌ๐ก๐š๐ฅ๐ฅ ๐ฌ๐ž๐ซ๐ฏ๐ž ๐ฆ๐ž.
โท๐‡๐ž ๐ญ๐ก๐š๐ญ ๐ฐ๐จ๐ซ๐ค๐ž๐ญ๐ก ๐๐ž๐œ๐ž๐ข๐ญ ๐ฌ๐ก๐š๐ฅ๐ฅ ๐ง๐จ๐ญ ๐๐ฐ๐ž๐ฅ๐ฅ ๐ฐ๐ข๐ญ๐ก๐ข๐ง ๐ฆ๐ฒ ๐ก๐จ๐ฎ๐ฌ๐ž: ๐ก๐ž ๐ญ๐ก๐š๐ญ ๐ญ๐ž๐ฅ๐ฅ๐ž๐ญ๐ก ๐ฅ๐ข๐ž๐ฌ ๐ฌ๐ก๐š๐ฅ๐ฅ ๐ง๐จ๐ญ ๐ญ๐š๐ซ๐ซ๐ฒ ๐ข๐ง ๐ฆ๐ฒ ๐ฌ๐ข๐ ๐ก๐ญ.
โธ๐ˆ ๐ฐ๐ข๐ฅ๐ฅ ๐ž๐š๐ซ๐ฅ๐ฒ ๐๐ž๐ฌ๐ญ๐ซ๐จ๐ฒ ๐š๐ฅ๐ฅ ๐ญ๐ก๐ž ๐ฐ๐ข๐œ๐ค๐ž๐ ๐จ๐Ÿ ๐ญ๐ก๐ž ๐ฅ๐š๐ง๐; ๐ญ๐ก๐š๐ญ ๐ˆ ๐ฆ๐š๐ฒ ๐œ๐ฎ๐ญ ๐จ๐Ÿ๐Ÿ ๐š๐ฅ๐ฅ ๐ฐ๐ข๐œ๐ค๐ž๐ ๐๐จ๐ž๐ซ๐ฌ ๐Ÿ๐ซ๐จ๐ฆ ๐ญ๐ก๐ž ๐œ๐ข๐ญ๐ฒ ๐จ๐Ÿ ๐ญ๐ก๐ž ๐‹๐Ž๐‘๐ƒ.
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Forwarded from IFB Independent Fundamental Baptists

๐—” ๐—™๐—ผ๐—ฟ๐—ด๐—ผ๐˜๐˜๐—ฒ๐—ป ๐—ฆ๐˜๐—ผ๐—ฟ๐˜† ๐—ณ๐—ฟ๐—ผ๐—บ ๐—•๐—ฎ๐—ฝ๐˜๐—ถ๐˜€๐˜ ๐—›๐—ถ๐˜€๐˜๐—ผ๐—ฟ๐˜†

OTD in 1651 Baptist preacher Obadiah Holmes was given 30 lashes at the public whipping post in Boston. His crime? Preaching the gospel and holding an illegal Baptist worship service in Puritan Massachusetts Bay Colony.

On Sunday, July 20, 1651, Baptists John Clarke, John Crandall, and Obadiah Holmes traveled from the Baptist Church at Newport, Rhode Island to Lynn, Massachusetts where they held a small Baptist service in the home of William Witter. In the middle of their service, the authorities bust in and arrested them for "seducing and drawing aside others after their erroneous judgment and practices. Under the Puritan law it was illegal for Baptists to preach or hold church services.

Of these Baptists it was said, โ€œ๐˜ ๐˜ฐ๐˜ถ ๐˜ข๐˜ง๐˜ง๐˜ช๐˜ณ๐˜ฎ๐˜ฆ๐˜ฅ ๐˜ต๐˜ฉ๐˜ข๐˜ต ๐˜บ๐˜ฐ๐˜ถ ๐˜ฏ๐˜ฆ๐˜ท๐˜ฆ๐˜ณ ๐˜ฅ๐˜ช๐˜ฅ ๐˜ณ๐˜ฆ-๐˜ฃ๐˜ข๐˜ฑ๐˜ต๐˜ช๐˜ป๐˜ฆ ๐˜ข๐˜ฏ๐˜บ, ๐˜บ๐˜ฆ๐˜ต ๐˜ฅ๐˜ช๐˜ฅ ๐˜ข๐˜ค๐˜ฌ๐˜ฏ๐˜ฐ๐˜ธ๐˜ญ๐˜ฆ๐˜ฅ๐˜จ๐˜ฆ ๐˜ต๐˜ฉ๐˜ข๐˜ต ๐˜บ๐˜ฐ๐˜ถ ๐˜ฅ๐˜ช๐˜ฅ ๐˜ฃ๐˜ข๐˜ฑ๐˜ต๐˜ช๐˜ป๐˜ฆ ๐˜ด๐˜ถ๐˜ค๐˜ฉ ๐˜ข๐˜ด ๐˜ธ๐˜ฆ๐˜ณ๐˜ฆ ๐˜ฃ๐˜ข๐˜ฑ๐˜ต๐˜ช๐˜ป๐˜ฆ๐˜ฅ ๐˜ฃ๐˜ฆ๐˜ง๐˜ฐ๐˜ณ๐˜ฆ, ๐˜ข๐˜ฏ๐˜ฅ ๐˜ต๐˜ฉ๐˜ฆ๐˜ณ๐˜ฆ๐˜ฃ๐˜บ ๐˜ฅ๐˜ช๐˜ฅ ๐˜ฏ๐˜ฆ๐˜ค๐˜ฆ๐˜ด๐˜ด๐˜ข๐˜ณ๐˜ช๐˜ญ๐˜บ ๐˜ฅ๐˜ฆ๐˜ฏ๐˜บ ๐˜ต๐˜ฉ๐˜ฆ ๐˜ฃ๐˜ข๐˜ฑ๐˜ต๐˜ช๐˜ด๐˜ฎ ๐˜ต๐˜ฉ๐˜ข๐˜ต ๐˜ธ๐˜ข๐˜ด ๐˜ฃ๐˜ฆ๐˜ง๐˜ฐ๐˜ณ๐˜ฆ ๐˜ข๐˜ฅ๐˜ฎ๐˜ช๐˜ฏ๐˜ช๐˜ด๐˜ต๐˜ฆ๐˜ณ๐˜ฆ๐˜ฅ ๐˜ต๐˜ฐ ๐˜ฃ๐˜ฆ ๐˜ฃ๐˜ข๐˜ฑ๐˜ต๐˜ช๐˜ด๐˜ฎ, ๐˜ต๐˜ฉ๐˜ฆ ๐˜ค๐˜ฉ๐˜ถ๐˜ณ๐˜ค๐˜ฉ๐˜ฆ๐˜ด ๐˜ต๐˜ฐ ๐˜ฃ๐˜ฆ ๐˜ฏ๐˜ฐ ๐˜ค๐˜ฉ๐˜ถ๐˜ณ๐˜ค๐˜ฉ๐˜ฆ๐˜ด, ๐˜ข๐˜ฏ๐˜ฅ ๐˜ข๐˜ญ๐˜ด๐˜ฐ ๐˜ฐ๐˜ต๐˜ฉ๐˜ฆ๐˜ณ ๐˜ฐ๐˜ณ๐˜ฅ๐˜ช๐˜ฏ๐˜ข๐˜ฏ๐˜ค๐˜ฆ๐˜ด, ๐˜ข๐˜ฏ๐˜ฅ ๐˜ฎ๐˜ช๐˜ฏ๐˜ช๐˜ด๐˜ต๐˜ฆ๐˜ณ๐˜ด, ๐˜ข๐˜ด ๐˜ช๐˜ง ๐˜ข๐˜ญ๐˜ญ ๐˜ธ๐˜ฆ๐˜ณ๐˜ฆ ๐˜ข ๐˜ฏ๐˜ถ๐˜ญ๐˜ญ๐˜ช๐˜ต๐˜บ; ๐˜ข๐˜ฏ๐˜ฅ ๐˜ฅ๐˜ช๐˜ฅ ๐˜ข๐˜ญ๐˜ด๐˜ฐ ๐˜ฅ๐˜ฆ๐˜ฏ๐˜บ ๐˜ต๐˜ฉ๐˜ฆ ๐˜ญ๐˜ข๐˜ธ๐˜ง๐˜ถ๐˜ญ๐˜ฏ๐˜ฆ๐˜ด๐˜ด ๐˜ฐ๐˜ง ๐˜ฃ๐˜ข๐˜ฑ๐˜ต๐˜ช๐˜ป๐˜ช๐˜ฏ๐˜จ ๐˜ช๐˜ฏ๐˜ง๐˜ข๐˜ฏ๐˜ต๐˜ด.โ€

The three men were fined and if their fines were not paid, they were to be publicly whipped. Someone paid Clarke and Crandallโ€™s fine, but Holmes refused to allow this. He viewed payment of the fine as admission of guilt. So, on September 5, 1651, he was given 30 lashes with a three-corded whipped.

Afterwards, Holmes famously said to the magistrates, โ€œYe have beaten me as with roses.โ€ Two men, John Hazel and John Spur rushed to help Holmes. Both were arrested and fined for offering the Baptist preacher assistance! Obadiah Holmes was beaten so badly that for weeks he was forced to sleep on his elbows and knees. He would bear the scars of religious persecution for the rest of his life.

John Clarke would record this story in his book โ€œIll News from New England.โ€ Clarke sailed to England where he was eventually able to convince King Charles II to allow religious liberty in the fledgling colony of Rhode Island.

Obadiah Holmes went on to serve as the second pastor of the Newport Baptist Church for 30 years. Obadiah and his wife Catherine later had ten children. Among their descents is Abraham Lincoln.

After years of faithful service, Obadiah Holmes died on October 15, 1682. May his forgotten story be rediscovered by a new generation of Baptists. โ€œ๐˜๐˜ฐ๐˜ณ ๐˜ต๐˜ฉ๐˜ช๐˜ด ๐˜ช๐˜ด ๐˜ต๐˜ฉ๐˜ข๐˜ฏ๐˜ฌ๐˜ธ๐˜ฐ๐˜ณ๐˜ต๐˜ฉ๐˜บ, ๐˜ช๐˜ง ๐˜ข ๐˜ฎ๐˜ข๐˜ฏ ๐˜ง๐˜ฐ๐˜ณ ๐˜ค๐˜ฐ๐˜ฏ๐˜ด๐˜ค๐˜ช๐˜ฆ๐˜ฏ๐˜ค๐˜ฆ ๐˜ต๐˜ฐ๐˜ธ๐˜ข๐˜ณ๐˜ฅ ๐˜Ž๐˜ฐ๐˜ฅ ๐˜ฆ๐˜ฏ๐˜ฅ๐˜ถ๐˜ณ๐˜ฆ ๐˜จ๐˜ณ๐˜ช๐˜ฆ๐˜ง, ๐˜ด๐˜ถ๐˜ง๐˜ง๐˜ฆ๐˜ณ๐˜ช๐˜ฏ๐˜จ ๐˜ธ๐˜ณ๐˜ฐ๐˜ฏ๐˜จ๐˜ง๐˜ถ๐˜ญ๐˜ญ๐˜บ.โ€ 1 ๐˜—๐˜ฆ๐˜ต๐˜ฆ๐˜ณ 2:19
Post #1641 146

Forwarded from Andrew

A quick Free Grace exegesis: In my reading today I got to this verse...

ยนยน๐‚๐š๐ฌ๐ญ ๐ฆ๐ž ๐ง๐จ๐ญ ๐š๐ฐ๐š๐ฒ ๐Ÿ๐ซ๐จ๐ฆ ๐ญ๐ก๐ฒ ๐ฉ๐ซ๐ž๐ฌ๐ž๐ง๐œ๐ž; ๐š๐ง๐ ๐ญ๐š๐ค๐ž ๐ง๐จ๐ญ ๐ญ๐ก๐ฒ ๐ก๐จ๐ฅ๐ฒ ๐ฌ๐ฉ๐ข๐ซ๐ข๐ญ ๐Ÿ๐ซ๐จ๐ฆ ๐ฆ๐ž.
()xxxxx[[{::::::๐๐ฌ๐š๐ฅ๐ฆ ๐Ÿ“๐Ÿ:๐Ÿ๐Ÿ::::::>

Ruckmanites and Conditionalists believe that salvation from hell can be lost in the Old Testament because of disobedience. They use this verse as one of their proofs. But eternal life is not synonymous with receiving the Holy Spirit.

During Jesus' time on earth the Holy Spirit was not yet indwelt into every saved person...

ยณโน(๐๐ฎ๐ญ ๐ญ๐ก๐ข๐ฌ ๐ฌ๐ฉ๐š๐ค๐ž ๐ก๐ž ๐จ๐Ÿ ๐ญ๐ก๐ž ๐’๐ฉ๐ข๐ซ๐ข๐ญ, ๐ฐ๐ก๐ข๐œ๐ก ๐ญ๐ก๐ž๐ฒ ๐ญ๐ก๐š๐ญ ๐›๐ž๐ฅ๐ข๐ž๐ฏ๐ž ๐จ๐ง ๐ก๐ข๐ฆ ๐ฌ๐ก๐จ๐ฎ๐ฅ๐ ๐ซ๐ž๐œ๐ž๐ข๐ฏ๐ž: ๐Ÿ๐จ๐ซ ๐ญ๐ก๐ž ๐‡๐จ๐ฅ๐ฒ ๐†๐ก๐จ๐ฌ๐ญ ๐ฐ๐š๐ฌ ๐ง๐จ๐ญ ๐ฒ๐ž๐ญ [๐ ๐ข๐ฏ๐ž๐ง]; ๐›๐ž๐œ๐š๐ฎ๐ฌ๐ž ๐ญ๐ก๐š๐ญ ๐‰๐ž๐ฌ๐ฎ๐ฌ ๐ฐ๐š๐ฌ ๐ง๐จ๐ญ ๐ฒ๐ž๐ญ ๐ ๐ฅ๐จ๐ซ๐ข๐Ÿ๐ข๐ž๐.)
()xxxxx[[{::::::๐‰๐จ๐ก๐ง ๐Ÿ•:๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ—::::::>

...yet eternal life was still given...

โดโท๐•๐ž๐ซ๐ข๐ฅ๐ฒ, ๐ฏ๐ž๐ซ๐ข๐ฅ๐ฒ, ๐ˆ ๐ฌ๐š๐ฒ ๐ฎ๐ง๐ญ๐จ ๐ฒ๐จ๐ฎ, ๐‡๐ž ๐ญ๐ก๐š๐ญ ๐›๐ž๐ฅ๐ข๐ž๐ฏ๐ž๐ญ๐ก ๐จ๐ง ๐ฆ๐ž ๐ก๐š๐ญ๐ก ๐ž๐ฏ๐ž๐ซ๐ฅ๐š๐ฌ๐ญ๐ข๐ง๐  ๐ฅ๐ข๐Ÿ๐ž.
()xxxxx[[{::::::๐‰๐จ๐ก๐ง ๐Ÿ”:๐Ÿ’๐Ÿ•::::::>

Receiving the Holy Spirit as a permanent indwelling in us is a new covenant blessing that those in the old covenant did not partake in. Eternal salvation however, is and has always been irreversible.
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Post #1639 228

Forwarded from ฮ“ฮตฯ‰ฯฮณฮนฮฟฯ‚

Post #1636 158

Forwarded from Andrew's Double-Edged Sword

How to Have 100% Assurance That Heaven is Your Home When You Die โ€” The Clear Gospel in 4 Minutes

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
โ€” John 3:16


YouTube Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wh1VU-_OF98
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Post #1633 162

Forwarded from Andrew

lol oh no...wait a minute...

ยนยณ๐€๐ง๐ ๐ˆ ๐ฌ๐š๐ฐ ๐ญ๐ก๐ซ๐ž๐ž ๐ฎ๐ง๐œ๐ฅ๐ž๐š๐ง ๐ฌ๐ฉ๐ข๐ซ๐ข๐ญ๐ฌ ๐ฅ๐ข๐ค๐ž ๐Ÿ๐ซ๐จ๐ ๐ฌ [๐œ๐จ๐ฆ๐ž] ๐จ๐ฎ๐ญ ๐จ๐Ÿ ๐ญ๐ก๐ž ๐ฆ๐จ๐ฎ๐ญ๐ก ๐จ๐Ÿ ๐ญ๐ก๐ž ๐๐ซ๐š๐ ๐จ๐ง, ๐š๐ง๐ ๐จ๐ฎ๐ญ ๐จ๐Ÿ ๐ญ๐ก๐ž ๐ฆ๐จ๐ฎ๐ญ๐ก ๐จ๐Ÿ ๐ญ๐ก๐ž ๐›๐ž๐š๐ฌ๐ญ, ๐š๐ง๐ ๐จ๐ฎ๐ญ ๐จ๐Ÿ ๐ญ๐ก๐ž ๐ฆ๐จ๐ฎ๐ญ๐ก ๐จ๐Ÿ ๐ญ๐ก๐ž ๐Ÿ๐š๐ฅ๐ฌ๐ž ๐ฉ๐ซ๐จ๐ฉ๐ก๐ž๐ญ.
ยนโด๐…๐จ๐ซ ๐ญ๐ก๐ž๐ฒ ๐š๐ซ๐ž ๐ญ๐ก๐ž ๐ฌ๐ฉ๐ข๐ซ๐ข๐ญ๐ฌ ๐จ๐Ÿ ๐๐ž๐ฏ๐ข๐ฅ๐ฌ, ๐ฐ๐จ๐ซ๐ค๐ข๐ง๐  ๐ฆ๐ข๐ซ๐š๐œ๐ฅ๐ž๐ฌ, [๐ฐ๐ก๐ข๐œ๐ก] ๐ ๐จ ๐Ÿ๐จ๐ซ๐ญ๐ก ๐ฎ๐ง๐ญ๐จ ๐ญ๐ก๐ž ๐ค๐ข๐ง๐ ๐ฌ ๐จ๐Ÿ ๐ญ๐ก๐ž ๐ž๐š๐ซ๐ญ๐ก ๐š๐ง๐ ๐จ๐Ÿ ๐ญ๐ก๐ž ๐ฐ๐ก๐จ๐ฅ๐ž ๐ฐ๐จ๐ซ๐ฅ๐, ๐ญ๐จ ๐ ๐š๐ญ๐ก๐ž๐ซ ๐ญ๐ก๐ž๐ฆ ๐ญ๐จ ๐ญ๐ก๐ž ๐›๐š๐ญ๐ญ๐ฅ๐ž ๐จ๐Ÿ ๐ญ๐ก๐š๐ญ ๐ ๐ซ๐ž๐š๐ญ ๐๐š๐ฒ ๐จ๐Ÿ ๐†๐จ๐ ๐€๐ฅ๐ฆ๐ข๐ ๐ก๐ญ๐ฒ.
()xxxxx[[{::::::๐‘๐ž๐ฏ๐ž๐ฅ๐š๐ญ๐ข๐จ๐ง ๐Ÿ๐Ÿ”:๐Ÿ๐Ÿ‘-๐Ÿ๐Ÿ’::::::>
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Post #1632 219

Forwarded from Andrew's Double-Edged Sword

Types of OSAS [Update 11/29/2025]
(Once Saved Always Saved)

Unrestricted OSAS [AKA: Free Grace, Pure OSAS]
โ€”>A saved person is eternally secure but is able to both live in sin and stop believing the gospel entirely. If you believe that a saved person has the capability to fall into Islam or Catholicism or hate Jesus Christ and still go to heaven even if unrepentant, then you are the purest form of OSAS.

OBAB [Once a Believer Always a Believer] (Corrupted OSAS)
โ€”>It is impossible for a saved person to stop believing the gospel.
โ€”>If a saved person appears to have stopped believing, then they never believed to begin with.
Note: This is the diet-version of Perseverance of The Saints

Perseverance of The Saints (Corrupted Eternal Security)
โ€”>A saved person is never going to stop living a holy life in obedience to God nor stop believing the gospel.
โ€”>If a person lives in "unrepentant sin", then they never believed to begin with.

[LINK] โ€” See the most up-to-date chart
[LINK] โ€” Sub-Types of OBAB
[LINK] โ€” Sub-Types of Perseverance of The Saints
[LINK] โ€” OSAS Salvation Exclusion Scale (AKA: Who is saved outside of my OSAS position?)

[LINK] โ€” 7 Essays Disproving OBAB and Perseverance of The Saints
Post #1630 168
Fearing for No Reason โ€” IV

ยน๐€๐ง๐ ๐ก๐ž ๐ก๐ž๐š๐ซ๐ ๐ญ๐ก๐ž ๐ฐ๐จ๐ซ๐๐ฌ ๐จ๐Ÿ ๐‹๐š๐›๐š๐งโ€™๐ฌ ๐ฌ๐จ๐ง๐ฌ, ๐ฌ๐š๐ฒ๐ข๐ง๐ , ๐‰๐š๐œ๐จ๐› ๐ก๐š๐ญ๐ก ๐ญ๐š๐ค๐ž๐ง ๐š๐ฐ๐š๐ฒ ๐š๐ฅ๐ฅ ๐ญ๐ก๐š๐ญ [๐ฐ๐š๐ฌ] ๐จ๐ฎ๐ซ ๐Ÿ๐š๐ญ๐ก๐ž๐ซโ€™๐ฌ; ๐š๐ง๐ ๐จ๐Ÿ [๐ญ๐ก๐š๐ญ] ๐ฐ๐ก๐ข๐œ๐ก [๐ฐ๐š๐ฌ] ๐จ๐ฎ๐ซ ๐Ÿ๐š๐ญ๐ก๐ž๐ซโ€™๐ฌ ๐ก๐š๐ญ๐ก ๐ก๐ž ๐ ๐จ๐ญ๐ญ๐ž๐ง ๐š๐ฅ๐ฅ ๐ญ๐ก๐ข๐ฌ ๐ ๐ฅ๐จ๐ซ๐ฒ.
ยฒ๐€๐ง๐ ๐‰๐š๐œ๐จ๐› ๐›๐ž๐ก๐ž๐ฅ๐ ๐ญ๐ก๐ž ๐œ๐จ๐ฎ๐ง๐ญ๐ž๐ง๐š๐ง๐œ๐ž ๐จ๐Ÿ ๐‹๐š๐›๐š๐ง, ๐š๐ง๐, ๐›๐ž๐ก๐จ๐ฅ๐, ๐ข๐ญ [๐ฐ๐š๐ฌ] ๐ง๐จ๐ญ ๐ญ๐จ๐ฐ๐š๐ซ๐ ๐ก๐ข๐ฆ ๐š๐ฌ ๐›๐ž๐Ÿ๐จ๐ซ๐ž.
ยณ๐€๐ง๐ ๐ญ๐ก๐ž ๐‹๐Ž๐‘๐ƒ ๐ฌ๐š๐ข๐ ๐ฎ๐ง๐ญ๐จ ๐‰๐š๐œ๐จ๐›, ๐‘๐ž๐ญ๐ฎ๐ซ๐ง ๐ฎ๐ง๐ญ๐จ ๐ญ๐ก๐ž ๐ฅ๐š๐ง๐ ๐จ๐Ÿ ๐ญ๐ก๐ฒ ๐Ÿ๐š๐ญ๐ก๐ž๐ซ๐ฌ, ๐š๐ง๐ ๐ญ๐จ ๐ญ๐ก๐ฒ ๐ค๐ข๐ง๐๐ซ๐ž๐; ๐š๐ง๐ ๐ˆ ๐ฐ๐ข๐ฅ๐ฅ ๐›๐ž ๐ฐ๐ข๐ญ๐ก ๐ญ๐ก๐ž๐ž.
โด๐€๐ง๐ ๐‰๐š๐œ๐จ๐› ๐ฌ๐ž๐ง๐ญ ๐š๐ง๐ ๐œ๐š๐ฅ๐ฅ๐ž๐ ๐‘๐š๐œ๐ก๐ž๐ฅ ๐š๐ง๐ ๐‹๐ž๐š๐ก ๐ญ๐จ ๐ญ๐ก๐ž ๐Ÿ๐ข๐ž๐ฅ๐ ๐ฎ๐ง๐ญ๐จ ๐ก๐ข๐ฌ ๐Ÿ๐ฅ๐จ๐œ๐ค,
โต๐€๐ง๐ ๐ฌ๐š๐ข๐ ๐ฎ๐ง๐ญ๐จ ๐ญ๐ก๐ž๐ฆ, ๐ˆ ๐ฌ๐ž๐ž ๐ฒ๐จ๐ฎ๐ซ ๐Ÿ๐š๐ญ๐ก๐ž๐ซโ€™๐ฌ ๐œ๐จ๐ฎ๐ง๐ญ๐ž๐ง๐š๐ง๐œ๐ž, ๐ญ๐ก๐š๐ญ ๐ข๐ญ [๐ข๐ฌ] ๐ง๐จ๐ญ ๐ญ๐จ๐ฐ๐š๐ซ๐ ๐ฆ๐ž ๐š๐ฌ ๐›๐ž๐Ÿ๐จ๐ซ๐ž; ๐›๐ฎ๐ญ ๐ญ๐ก๐ž ๐†๐จ๐ ๐จ๐Ÿ ๐ฆ๐ฒ ๐Ÿ๐š๐ญ๐ก๐ž๐ซ ๐ก๐š๐ญ๐ก ๐›๐ž๐ž๐ง ๐ฐ๐ข๐ญ๐ก ๐ฆ๐ž.
โถ๐€๐ง๐ ๐ฒ๐ž ๐ค๐ง๐จ๐ฐ ๐ญ๐ก๐š๐ญ ๐ฐ๐ข๐ญ๐ก ๐š๐ฅ๐ฅ ๐ฆ๐ฒ ๐ฉ๐จ๐ฐ๐ž๐ซ ๐ˆ ๐ก๐š๐ฏ๐ž ๐ฌ๐ž๐ซ๐ฏ๐ž๐ ๐ฒ๐จ๐ฎ๐ซ ๐Ÿ๐š๐ญ๐ก๐ž๐ซ.
โท๐€๐ง๐ ๐ฒ๐จ๐ฎ๐ซ ๐Ÿ๐š๐ญ๐ก๐ž๐ซ ๐ก๐š๐ญ๐ก ๐๐ž๐œ๐ž๐ข๐ฏ๐ž๐ ๐ฆ๐ž, ๐š๐ง๐ ๐œ๐ก๐š๐ง๐ ๐ž๐ ๐ฆ๐ฒ ๐ฐ๐š๐ ๐ž๐ฌ ๐ญ๐ž๐ง ๐ญ๐ข๐ฆ๐ž๐ฌ; ๐›๐ฎ๐ญ ๐†๐จ๐ ๐ฌ๐ฎ๐Ÿ๐Ÿ๐ž๐ซ๐ž๐ ๐ก๐ข๐ฆ ๐ง๐จ๐ญ ๐ญ๐จ ๐ก๐ฎ๐ซ๐ญ ๐ฆ๐ž.
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The above issues with Laban might cause some distrust or contention between the family, but does the chapter say that he was going to take Jacob's wives and kids away from him? No. Jacob made it up in his head. And that worry caused him to leave Laban's house secretly in the middle of the night.

ยฒโฐ๐€๐ง๐ ๐‰๐š๐œ๐จ๐› ๐ฌ๐ญ๐จ๐ฅ๐ž ๐š๐ฐ๐š๐ฒ ๐ฎ๐ง๐š๐ฐ๐š๐ซ๐ž๐ฌ ๐ญ๐จ ๐‹๐š๐›๐š๐ง ๐ญ๐ก๐ž ๐’๐ฒ๐ซ๐ข๐š๐ง, ๐ข๐ง ๐ญ๐ก๐š๐ญ ๐ก๐ž ๐ญ๐จ๐ฅ๐ ๐ก๐ข๐ฆ ๐ง๐จ๐ญ ๐ญ๐ก๐š๐ญ ๐ก๐ž ๐Ÿ๐ฅ๐ž๐.
ยฒยน๐’๐จ ๐ก๐ž ๐Ÿ๐ฅ๐ž๐ ๐ฐ๐ข๐ญ๐ก ๐š๐ฅ๐ฅ ๐ญ๐ก๐š๐ญ ๐ก๐ž ๐ก๐š๐; ๐š๐ง๐ ๐ก๐ž ๐ซ๐จ๐ฌ๐ž ๐ฎ๐ฉ, ๐š๐ง๐ ๐ฉ๐š๐ฌ๐ฌ๐ž๐ ๐จ๐ฏ๐ž๐ซ ๐ญ๐ก๐ž ๐ซ๐ข๐ฏ๐ž๐ซ, ๐š๐ง๐ ๐ฌ๐ž๐ญ ๐ก๐ข๐ฌ ๐Ÿ๐š๐œ๐ž [๐ญ๐จ๐ฐ๐š๐ซ๐] ๐ญ๐ก๐ž ๐ฆ๐จ๐ฎ๐ง๐ญ ๐†๐ข๐ฅ๐ž๐š๐.
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God told Jacob to leave, but he did NOT tell him to flee without Laban's knowledge.

ยนยณ๐ˆ [๐š๐ฆ] ๐ญ๐ก๐ž ๐†๐จ๐ ๐จ๐Ÿ ๐๐ž๐ญ๐ก๐ž๐ฅ, ๐ฐ๐ก๐ž๐ซ๐ž ๐ญ๐ก๐จ๐ฎ ๐š๐ง๐จ๐ข๐ง๐ญ๐ž๐๐ฌ๐ญ ๐ญ๐ก๐ž ๐ฉ๐ข๐ฅ๐ฅ๐š๐ซ, [๐š๐ง๐] ๐ฐ๐ก๐ž๐ซ๐ž ๐ญ๐ก๐จ๐ฎ ๐ฏ๐จ๐ฐ๐ž๐๐ฌ๐ญ ๐š ๐ฏ๐จ๐ฐ ๐ฎ๐ง๐ญ๐จ ๐ฆ๐ž: ๐ง๐จ๐ฐ ๐š๐ซ๐ข๐ฌ๐ž, ๐ ๐ž๐ญ ๐ญ๐ก๐ž๐ž ๐จ๐ฎ๐ญ ๐Ÿ๐ซ๐จ๐ฆ ๐ญ๐ก๐ข๐ฌ ๐ฅ๐š๐ง๐, ๐š๐ง๐ ๐ซ๐ž๐ญ๐ฎ๐ซ๐ง ๐ฎ๐ง๐ญ๐จ ๐ญ๐ก๐ž ๐ฅ๐š๐ง๐ ๐จ๐Ÿ ๐ญ๐ก๐ฒ ๐ค๐ข๐ง๐๐ซ๐ž๐.
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This caused problems in the family.

ยฒโถ๐€๐ง๐ ๐‹๐š๐›๐š๐ง ๐ฌ๐š๐ข๐ ๐ญ๐จ ๐‰๐š๐œ๐จ๐›, ๐–๐ก๐š๐ญ ๐ก๐š๐ฌ๐ญ ๐ญ๐ก๐จ๐ฎ ๐๐จ๐ง๐ž, ๐ญ๐ก๐š๐ญ ๐ญ๐ก๐จ๐ฎ ๐ก๐š๐ฌ๐ญ ๐ฌ๐ญ๐จ๐ฅ๐ž๐ง ๐š๐ฐ๐š๐ฒ ๐ฎ๐ง๐š๐ฐ๐š๐ซ๐ž๐ฌ ๐ญ๐จ ๐ฆ๐ž, ๐š๐ง๐ ๐œ๐š๐ซ๐ซ๐ข๐ž๐ ๐š๐ฐ๐š๐ฒ ๐ฆ๐ฒ ๐๐š๐ฎ๐ ๐ก๐ญ๐ž๐ซ๐ฌ, ๐š๐ฌ ๐œ๐š๐ฉ๐ญ๐ข๐ฏ๐ž๐ฌ [๐ญ๐š๐ค๐ž๐ง] ๐ฐ๐ข๐ญ๐ก ๐ญ๐ก๐ž ๐ฌ๐ฐ๐จ๐ซ๐?
ยฒโท๐–๐ก๐ž๐ซ๐ž๐Ÿ๐จ๐ซ๐ž ๐๐ข๐๐ฌ๐ญ ๐ญ๐ก๐จ๐ฎ ๐Ÿ๐ฅ๐ž๐ž ๐š๐ฐ๐š๐ฒ ๐ฌ๐ž๐œ๐ซ๐ž๐ญ๐ฅ๐ฒ, ๐š๐ง๐ ๐ฌ๐ญ๐ž๐š๐ฅ ๐š๐ฐ๐š๐ฒ ๐Ÿ๐ซ๐จ๐ฆ ๐ฆ๐ž; ๐š๐ง๐ ๐๐ข๐๐ฌ๐ญ ๐ง๐จ๐ญ ๐ญ๐ž๐ฅ๐ฅ ๐ฆ๐ž, ๐ญ๐ก๐š๐ญ ๐ˆ ๐ฆ๐ข๐ ๐ก๐ญ ๐ก๐š๐ฏ๐ž ๐ฌ๐ž๐ง๐ญ ๐ญ๐ก๐ž๐ž ๐š๐ฐ๐š๐ฒ ๐ฐ๐ข๐ญ๐ก ๐ฆ๐ข๐ซ๐ญ๐ก, ๐š๐ง๐ ๐ฐ๐ข๐ญ๐ก ๐ฌ๐จ๐ง๐ ๐ฌ, ๐ฐ๐ข๐ญ๐ก ๐ญ๐š๐›๐ซ๐ž๐ญ, ๐š๐ง๐ ๐ฐ๐ข๐ญ๐ก ๐ก๐š๐ซ๐ฉ?
ยฒโธ๐€๐ง๐ ๐ก๐š๐ฌ๐ญ ๐ง๐จ๐ญ ๐ฌ๐ฎ๐Ÿ๐Ÿ๐ž๐ซ๐ž๐ ๐ฆ๐ž ๐ญ๐จ ๐ค๐ข๐ฌ๐ฌ ๐ฆ๐ฒ ๐ฌ๐จ๐ง๐ฌ ๐š๐ง๐ ๐ฆ๐ฒ ๐๐š๐ฎ๐ ๐ก๐ญ๐ž๐ซ๐ฌ? ๐ญ๐ก๐จ๐ฎ ๐ก๐š๐ฌ๐ญ ๐ง๐จ๐ฐ ๐๐จ๐ง๐ž ๐Ÿ๐จ๐จ๐ฅ๐ข๐ฌ๐ก๐ฅ๐ฒ ๐ข๐ง [๐ฌ๐จ] ๐๐จ๐ข๐ง๐ .
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All this because Jacob feared for no reason.

ยณยน๐€๐ง๐ ๐‰๐š๐œ๐จ๐› ๐š๐ง๐ฌ๐ฐ๐ž๐ซ๐ž๐ ๐š๐ง๐ ๐ฌ๐š๐ข๐ ๐ญ๐จ ๐‹๐š๐›๐š๐ง, ๐๐ž๐œ๐š๐ฎ๐ฌ๐ž ๐ˆ ๐ฐ๐š๐ฌ ๐š๐Ÿ๐ซ๐š๐ข๐: ๐Ÿ๐จ๐ซ ๐ˆ ๐ฌ๐š๐ข๐, ๐๐ž๐ซ๐š๐๐ฏ๐ž๐ง๐ญ๐ฎ๐ซ๐ž ๐ญ๐ก๐จ๐ฎ ๐ฐ๐จ๐ฎ๐ฅ๐๐ž๐ฌ๐ญ ๐ญ๐š๐ค๐ž ๐›๐ฒ ๐Ÿ๐จ๐ซ๐œ๐ž ๐ญ๐ก๐ฒ ๐๐š๐ฎ๐ ๐ก๐ญ๐ž๐ซ๐ฌ ๐Ÿ๐ซ๐จ๐ฆ ๐ฆ๐ž.
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Forwarded from Just A Guy

My bride's sandwich joke today:

Do you know what your wife says when she's cooking you macaroni?  Good bye water, you will be mist!

After 36 years together, there is still no other person on earth I would rather spend time with and live life with than that dear lady!
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